if power directed by president obama at any muslim nation. including iran. >> he stepped up the drone attacks in pakistan. >> bill: that's against terrorists, not against the governments. >> it was definitely against the public opinion in pakistan. it was a very tough stance. kazmierczaked a lot of friction with the government. >> what could pakistan possibly do. i'm glad you mentioned pakistan. >> that is one of the areas. >> wait, wait, wait. >> seal raid. it took out usama bin laden. >> bill: i always have. drones i give them credit for and the raid. pakistan puts the guy who made the raid possible. the doctor in prison for 33 years. that is spitting in our eye. what do we do about that? nothing? a lot of issues behind the scene and under the table. >> in the case of pakistan. there is a lot of pushing and shoving that you don't see. there is lots of action going