the state has charged his wife shelly with a crime regarding that. and they have also suggested or at least the court in its order suggested that george may well have committed a crime. realizing that those potential charges exist against george and also they exist against shelly, i don't think we can talk about those precise evidence -- or elements. >> that's all elements, including the conversations on the tapes, the jailhouse take place, you had conversations with your wife et cetera? >> i think so. and with the state's position to try to charge his wife with a crime as well, if that wasn't on the table i don't know that we would have the same restrictions. >> let's talk about how you were treated in jail. you were in jail and then went back to jail. what was that like for you? >> i had taken -- i know it's been publicized that i took a