the dells, and the bill gates and edisons, who took the same system that was available to all of us, and took it a step first, and, by minimizing that, dismissing that, poo pooing that, he did a huge disservice to capital im. >>guest: he has. he does not believe in capital im. he truly believes that government is the best purveyor of goods and services and people and that is an extreme left wing liberal position. it is unusual for him to do this politically. it shows a level of dysfunction. he really moved way level positioning him sex -- himself as a moderate. whoever run as great business, we admit we had great teacher but i pay a ton taxes that pay their salaries. >>neil: dave ramsey, thank