many have considered this, especially on the left, have considered this a right leaning court. what does this do for this court historically speaking and otherwise? >> well, it shows that the court will not always rule in accordance with what our preconceived notion of hot allies are and hot conservatives are and hot liberals. it shows that we are not always right when we say it's four liberals vs. four conservatives and justice kennedy is in the middle it shows that once that while, shep, and i have said this earlier today, the court thinks like the vatican does. it doesn't think in terms of the present problem. it thinks of how generations later, even centuries later. lawyers and judges obviously yet unborn will look back on this day and ascertain their intellectual honesty. that's probably what john roberts would say if he were standing here and you got to question him. >> shepard: the dissent in this was quite something, judge, from it and otherwise we learned that without this from justice roberts, not just a little bit here and a little bit there, but the entirety of

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