>>shepard: i just read that account use gave it of what the president did when he thought he lost this thing, but i have not heard how he reacted. do not tell me he just walked to the office and sat down. will they tell you what happened? >>reporter: what i learned is that the president hugged his white house council. >>shepard: when he thought he lost and they were watching the tv and what happened? >>guest: we are report he had a quizzing look as it looked like it was going down, and, suddenly, his aides said, well, no, it survived and he had a quizzical look, and, then the top lawyer put two thumb's up and said it survived and he hugged her, and then, sort celebrated with his chief of staff. >>shepard: i don't think anyone was expecting the court would rule in this way on these grounds and that roberts called it a attack," politically speaking that could be a problem. >>guest: it provides a political opening for republicans because the bottom line, it is suggests that the