person who does president know it is harmless. -- who doesn't know it is harmless, right? >> this is not a funny thing. in most of the advanced countries of europe this is a capital offense. and this is one area where we should copy them. >> do they kill them? >> do you see people doing it? >> yes, it is a deterrent. >> when was the last time you saw a finished prime minister? it doesn't happen. the guy's name is peter smith. he was cited, and then he was released. do you think that is enough? and did the picture have any influence on your answer? >> no. >> peter smith, wasn't he the drummer for kiss? >> that is peter smith. >> there was a band called the smiths. habe that was them. >> -- maybe that was them. >> no, they all had different names.