for mitt romney. i think he has got to run first or second. but i think the onus is on santorum, who has to show that iowa wasn't a fluke. >> bret: although, steve, he is apparently doing very well, according to the most recent polls in south carolina. talk about mitt romney here. who is outperforming what the conventional wisdom is. >> it's interesting. i think he has to do better than just double digits victory in new hampshire. he has been leading the polls by 20, 25 points pretty consistently. if the gap is ten points that is hard for mitt romney to explain. when he is playing on his own turf. okay, 11. >> i am talking about win of 15, 20. >> more in the ballpark. it was surprising today he was doing so well in the poll in south carolina, which a lot of people say is not his natural turf. and rick santorum has been organizing there. rick perry has been organizing there. he was in a poll that was out today down at 5% in south carolina. >> bret: a.b., newt gingrich is rying to make his mark. he is talk -- trying to make