united states congress in the brief time i have been there. i'm 55 years old. it spent 50 years as a real person. now five years going toe to toe with barack obama. taking him on, on every issue from dodd-frank to cap and trade and illegal immigration to obamacare. and i will do that as president of the united states. that is my proven track record. >> bret: neil cavuto? >> neil: thank you, bret. governor perry, by your own admission you are not a great debater. you have said as much. downplayed debating skills in general. but if you were to become your party's nominee, you would be going up against an accomplished debater in barack obama. there are many in this audience tonight, sir, who fear that possibility. and don't think you are up to the fight. allay them of their concerns. >> i want to share something with you. as each one of these debates -- i'm kind of getting where i like the debates. i hope obama and i debate a lot. i'll get there early. we will get it on and we will