country, and out of that first tranche of cuts that we have, we said everything should be on the table, defense should be on the table, i understand that, but defense was half the table. we cut almost a half a trillion dollars out of defense. bill: some are arguing that that's what democrats wanted in the beginning. a series of videos out, you talk about irreversible damage. how so? >> well the 500 billion cut is before the supercommittee. that was already done. that will take place in the next budget cycle, so we'll be cutting about 50 billion a year over the next ten years. then you add the sequestration on top of that, it adds about another 5, 600 billion cuts to defense. you're looking going forward of about, if this were allowed to happen, about $100 billion a year cut out of the defense budget. bill: what do you think is the best card you have to play,