you don't get known by debates with eight other people. that's not how you get known. you get known going on the laura ingraham program, "the o'reilly factor" program, any program you'll get a fair shake. would i go to msnbc? no. that's ridiculous. >> i think we will come on with you, bill. >> bill: why hasn't he so far? it's almost too late. his poll numbers are -- he can make a comeback. >> october 11, he comes out. he gives the performance of his life, which he has to do. and also on the 18th. he has to perform. look, if you go into an interview and sarah palin ran into this, right, unfair edits maybe, but she ran into it with katie couric. you got to emerge with matt lauer, and you have to emerge strong and almost the victor. you can't be the punch line for the next day. he's got to come out strong. if he could make it through "the o'reilly factor" buzz saw, he won't make it through the barak obama rock million dollars