know, developing american jobs to the obama administration. it seems to me that in their quest and haste and enthusiasm to develop alternative energy, ie solar, that they took a big risk with $527 million, half a billion dollars of taxpayer money and they said, you know, we are going to take the risk because we really want this political payoff. is that what it is? >> i think that's true. i think they believed in it in a way and this was going to be the model. this was the future as the president described it. >> bill: how you can believe in it if your own guys are telling you the company is going down? it looks to me like they don't care. >> they didn't want to hear that the loan was put on hold by the bush administration on january 9th of 2009. and then six days after the new administration took office, it was back on a fast track and was approved very quickly. now, the questions today were not answered very well by the people from the administration. how did that happen? no one seemed to know the answer. >> bill: nobody knows. we weren't here.