when he said himself after a case that the police were very impressed about the type of intelligence i was coming up with that was revealed in court and the judge said it was a substantial volume of information that was extremely useful to the police. it says sources people right at top of new news international we aware of his role with the police. >> i was not aware nerks velle was a police informant. >> that comes as a shock to you? >> you are telling me now. i'm not even sure what it mean particularly. if you are asking me about the -- do members of the press and members of the police force have a symbiotic relationship of exchanging if for public interest they do. i'm not quite sure what the word police informant means. >> the allegation is that he passed a substantial volume of