something has to be brought to the attention. from a financial threshold point of view i think we addressed that earlier with respect to the settlent, out-of-court settlement with mr. taylor. but also from the standpoint of things like alleged criminality, violations of our own code of conduct, things like that, those are things that are the company's internal audit function as well as the audit committee, as well as the senior executives of the committee are expected to be made aware of, as they were in the case of criminal prosecutions in 2007. >> you know, whatever efforts were made, whatever rulings there were, we reached -- news international reached a crisis otherwise you won't be here today and "news of the world" wouldn't have been closed. who do you hold responsible for that failure? you're saying that people should have told you, but you didn't