not knowing who in news international was complicit in keeping that file containing how many pieces of paper, we are nowhere near knowing who knew what and when about that file, evidence that clearly contradicts not only statements previously given but evidence as it would appear that led your closest and trusted aid, les hinton to get misleading evidence. do you think that is so. >> no i do not. >> what do you think the company should do as a follow-up to if inquiry? >> well, mr. chapman who is in charge of this has left us. and he had that report for an