certainly feel like the government has been intruding on all of their privacy. >> i bet i travel as much as anybody else on this panel put together. on a plane almost every day and to tell you the truth, it doesn't bother me that much. i'll tell you one thing, my wife has a cigarette lighter, sorry to say she smokes, in the exact replica of a 25 caliber pistol with a laser site made of metal and accidentally brought it to the security and nobody stopped her. that's scary. >> adam. that's the point we're trying to make, we're spending billions of dollars, patting down certain people and grandma and babies and feels so-- >> my wife is a grandma. >> like typical government bureaucracy. >> charles, i say shame on us for having this conversation. first of all, they have kept us safe since 9/11, as dagen pointed out. thank you, i didn't know that it was president bush who nationalized it. this has nothing, nothing

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