taxes. >> greta: is raising taxes a deal breaker? >> absolutely. >> greta: is it a deal breaker for them as well? >> i just said, they tried raising taxes last december when they owned the government. they had the house, big majority in the senate, white house. they couldn't pass it then. clearly, it cannot pass. why not talk -- >> greta: why is that -- yeah, i don't mean to make you speak for the democrats. if it won't pass the tax increase why is that a line in the sand for them? >> i'm perplexed. i know they know it can't pass. they couldn't pass it when they owned the government. why -- it leads you to believe they don't want to address spending and debt. that's the only conclusion one can draw. >> greta: what happens when we hit the debt ceiling? tied to whether or not we have a budget deal. >> fortunately, we still have time. the folks on the other side to