generalize debit cards. >> reporter: he said what about a pizza restaurants if they could only charge for the dough. he says that's the position the banks are being put in. we should have a result shortly. the chief nose counter on the senate floor is dick durbin, majority whip. they tell our is a senate producer trish turner, the corker test amendment will fail. martha: like the devil hates holy water. that's a new one to me. let's look at the latist numbers we have. it's unbelievable how differently we spend our money these days. as of september last year, there were 37 million visa debit cards in circulation. about it end of last year, 123 million master card debit cards