dakota the guy who is pushing this is really to take the power to tax away from congress and the president and say that if the debt is not cut to a certain level, tax also automatically go up and until it's reached. and when i heard. >> bill: the house of representatives will never approve that. >> no. i hope they won't. but it was so interesting. >> bill: no way on earth. >> so interesting to see that he actually now is for that. and that's right there in the speech. >> bill: all of that and forgive me, i don't want to be condescending but all of that is b.s. to me because it's never going to happen. i just want to know what's gonna happen. >> here is what i think is gonna happen. i think that in the discretionary spending part i think the republicans will largely succeed in rolling it back to 2008 levels like you talked to. and then the big fight is going to be over block granting medicaid. when you talk about entitlements and in "revolt" i lay this out. big increase is medicaid. gone up by 52% when obama took