security. >> this is a bigger deal than is being reported. it is not just holder making a mistake this is the core of the president's con swept his mideast policy. to pay more respect to the muslim world by closing gitmo and treating terrorists with more respect than we were going to do in the tribunals. the admission now that he's not going to do that that was the theory behind the open hand to iran. the theory behind the other side of the hand to israel. to make this big reach-out based on being respectful. now he has to pull back. co-never have closed it down. -- he could never have closed it down. >> sean: dick cheney said in 2009 he will reverse himself, he has to. >> that is symbolic of the unreality on which this important policy was based. i think it is a big deal. i think the reality is gitmo creates terrorists. propaganda -- >> it keeps terrorists in a