ultimately is there a political peril for the president because the independent block in the middle, people are saying, wait a minute, maybe they should have to pay a little of their way. >> we used to say to public servants, you get to have a job that doesn't pay quite as much as the private sector but you get lots of job security and very good benefits but now the benefits and the salaries outstrip those people in the private sector and there are still almost no layoffs. so the president is in danger of siding with people who like to call themselves public certificate -- servants but they are really our masters. >> the average teacher gets a health care plan worth $22,000 a year and they pay nothing. >> and who in the private sector gets anything like that. >> this will pass, though? >>guest: well, i think so, in texas a few years ago the state legislators want outside of the state to try to runaway from their responsibilities and they came back.