15 to 20 rounds. >> we are told the suspect used pistol with extended magazine. as you heard from the eyewitness fired 20 shots. we know that the u.s. representative giffords survived surgery and she is said to be in critical condition, but unfortunately we also know a 9-year-old girl was killed. along with the federal judge. i'm hearing from our sources from kasz, the local fox affiliate, there is a clean-up scene across the street behind me with bodies yet to be removed. >> shepard: that is our understanding as well. they had to take care of the injured. >> i'm so shocked in my life at the events that happened today. this is not only very sad day for tucson and for the

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