>> but there is no plan . the american people have pushed hard to say wait, we want a plan. you make sure there is a plan to cut or make sure we stay within their means. >> what would the plan be if they don't raise the debt ceiling. how can the republicans make a proposal of what would happen be reasonable. >> number one. we must remember, remember the most important word in the englirn language. it was not just about november. rand pauls have to push. hold on, remember what you were elected to do and spend as we go. if you can't take the money that you have got and use as you go, you shouldn't extend beyond that. >> the republicans have the fortitude to cut across the board. entitlements and defense as well as earmarks >> you know, they don't need a saw.