this point, yes, the congressional budget office says that over the first ten years, that the health care bill will save 143 billion and over the second ten years, over a trillion. repeal that, means that if the republicans in the house are serious about what they're saying about balanced budgets, they're going to have to come up with corresponding savings and tax increases, ago that is hard to come by and incidentally-- >> all the points are wrong. >> toby hold on, i'm going to let somebody else talk, i know that-- i'm going to get matt get in here. >> if you believe the cbo budget i think you're out of your mind. they've proved it's wrong already and more importantly that the costs are perhaps on to the private sector and look at the big companies right now getting hit and they do not want this health care reform and if they get hit with higher costs, they're passing along to the employees. they're passing along to the consumers, so this is actually the end of the day, end of the costi costing, you and i much more,