interconnected they had to open up the borrowing powers to foreign entities but i was blown away by how many companies fit this thing. jenna: can you give us numbers on how much went out the door, how many were involved? >> there is a number but it doesn't matter, it's like monopoly money at some point. it's tens of billions of dollars. the money came back obviously because they repaid it but it's amazing. goldman sachs, they spent a lot of time, a big wall street firm, saying it didn't need a bailout. this thing proves it did. they hit the window like a hundred times, they a hundred times on an emergency basis. jenna: what does that tell you about the financial health of some of our most prestigious banks? >> what it tells you is about every major bank was about to go out of business in the fall of 2008 and major companies about to implode as well, like ge, because they didn't have the temporary cash on hand to keep operations going. jenna: when you see this information, you're analyzing and listening to these stories, does this give evidence or support the moves by the fed? >> it's going to be interpreted both ways.