cap nonmedical damages and we go to loser pay system. let us incent vice small businesses to offer health care and support the fact that insurance companies should be able to cross state line. states can handle the situation if given the opportunity. we do not need further mandates or debt. we need to get together as governors and say we don't want this. state rights matter. we have to go back to that. >>neil: open the debt -- on the debt commission, conservatives have been saying they could be won over to the tax increases, the debt commission is proposing some, especially getting rid of mortgage interest deduction and other corporate tax breaks if they can sell the portion that would cut all the income tax rates, corporate tax rates, because they could go back to their more conservative voters and members and supporters and say, well, net, net, net, you