hallway and there were all these gold records on the wall. he's a chemical guy. john, what are the gold records for? they're from the '60s. he said you remember cape town? yeah. it was my idea. he said before there was catell, i needed money to be able to have the money to create the egg idea. so i thought well, i'd like a compilation album of all the '50s and '60s and christmas. he sold i don't know how many million of records. he came up with that idea to fund his big idea. it's really amazing. he's my mentor now. they'll be there. you find the people that have the ethics. ethics. [ inaudible ] >> i don't drink coffee, but yes, yes we can. back in a second. ñ÷