teachers in the united states and we keep talking and using the expression, the bad teachers. the union does not believe that bad teachers should be in the classroom. in fact we have in many places worked with the local school district to provide a system of, one if we support teachers that need help, we give them the resources, and if they are not successful they shouldn't be in the profession. martha: even if they are tenured? you're firing them even if they tenured, allowing them to be fired. >> tenure is not the issue. being treated fairly is the issue, a due process. you can fire tenure *dd teacher. martha: everybody i've talked to on this issue says tenure needs to go or be reformed dramatically if we're ever going to see change in this. bill, what are your thoughts on that? >> martha i believe that all kids deserve a great teacher. i think as adults in this country we do have to make harder decisions around teachers

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