get to new york city to honor 3,000 dead americans? i think that there is really -- whoever is giving him political advice, i'll tell you, when i worked for president reagan, he understood what kind of message a picture sent and not to have him there at ground zero, i think, is a terrible, terrible message. >> i know you've thought about al-qaida and those evil forces at play on september 11th because you've come out with your second book on al-qaida. what do you think about this decision? >> i have to disagree with the other panelists. i don't think it's a failure of leadership at all. actually, you know, to some degree, we have to take a lesson from the brits and on july 7, 2005, they had trains, they had buses running the same day. and so why it's very important to remember all those that were lost in this horrible tragedy in this huge mass murder, at the same time, we also as a nation, including the leadership need to remember those that are the lost souls but also move on. i don't necessarily -- i think this is a day of rememberance