but you don't want to indict other party. how do you get votes, i suppose, how do you campaign in a way where you are not necessarily alienating the speaker, considering the speaker is not going anywhere any time soon and then after the elections, what happens? >> well, you know, i will tell you, i don't think it really matters if they try to alienate the speaker or not, if i were them, i would do everything they can to distance themselves from washington. right now, you are talking about the outside candidates vs. the inside candidates and, you know, republicans vs. democrats. >> that is excellent advice from a man who knows what he is talking about. >> and if i were a democrat, i would be trying to campaign on everything that's what's wrong with washington. the problem is they promised change in 2008 and they didn't bring it. it's going to be very difficult for them to accomplish that. >> he knows exactly -- >> speaker pelosi is the albatross around a lot of these democrats. >> julie: richard, go ahead. >> i say ron knows what he is talking about having been there