atmosphere. why not just use like a ballet bar? >> it is a ballet bar. it's just vertical. i mean, have you looked at the -- >> totally different connotation. >> to who though? to adults? to men? >> to most americans. >> it's changing. it's changing. it really is. it's becoming a fitness. it's on "oprah." it's been on ellen. >> for adults, tammy. and i think that's the whole point. >> have you been to a playground, though? have you seen the poles? there's poles in most playgrounds. it's a vertical -- >> they're not doing sexy flexy at the playground. tammy morris -- >> we're teaching them how to climb and flip upside down. >> highly controversial issue. viewers, let us know what you think about it. tammy morris, thanks very much for joining us. a little bit different from a playground from a pole dancing studio. i don't know, you be the judge. moments ago, a grim prediction on jobs from one of the most powerful men in the financial world. what treasury secretary tim geitner is saying top of the hour. then this video is stunning. good samaritans trying to help battle a wildfire wind up inside the fire instead.