every one of these guys is singing like bette midler. at the end of the day this is not an issue. what i'm concerned about is going forward. i'm also concerned about the bigger picture, which is these guys like shahzhad who have gotten the citizenship and there's some evidence to suggest they're doing that, our enemies are smart and adaptive and they can read the paper, and if they think that becoming an american citizen will help them move or help them avoid prosecution or being treated by an enemy combatant or give them rights to which they may not otherwise have been entitled, i see that's what's going on and the process does need to be put in place to deal with that. jon: fred, a guy like abdulmutallab who set his crotch on fire, he's obviously not going to be feeling exactly 100 percent, then all of the sudden you tell him, oh, you are allowed to remain silent now, it would seem that that would be counterproductive in a situation like that. >> well, it would be. i mean, they call. fruit of the kaboom. at the end of the day, i sat in on the sessions where you interviewed these guys and a couple of things are going on. first of all, the first story we get from them is never the truth, so it does