majority of irish italian, polish jews came before 1918. before ellis island they didn't ask for passports. >> bill: there was no immigration control back then but now there is. >> that's exactly the point. right? >> bill: here is the problem. the left is trying to make this a racist issue, that there is -- and you wrote on the daily beast something to this sort that there is a drive to punish hispanics. because they don't like the fact they are hispanic. i don't see that in a few cases, yeah. but i don't see that to motivate the arizona authorities. the arizona authorities say we are desperate. we don't have the money. our crime problem is through the roof. phoenix one of the most dangerous cities in the country. we have got to do something. it's not based on racism. it's racism self-protection. >> related to crimes than illegals is. i think there is a lot of media fueled hysteria here. >> bill: phoenix is the kidnapping capital of the united states most of the kidnapping done by mexican nationals.