that's without the value added tax. >> you make a good point. i recall in the 90s, i went around and did seminars in the upper midwest on tax burden. i took self-employed people because they were my trade social and added that up and got input from the group always. we would add up the federal income tax, state income tax and excise taxes and we would get over 50%. i would save the sales tax until last 50% on everything else you are paying that with after tax income as a rule so you double that number if it is 7% sales tax it is 14. we found even then we were between 65 and 75% tax liability. when you add the property tack the way you say it does come to a number that is in that 75% range. and the burden of government is so great, that it has diminished the vital activity private sector what is left of america. if we are going to take this