pilot out of the way. joe who had passed was too big for them to move. so luckily, he had some pilot experience and i was able to talk to him and use some of the layman's terms and help him get through the situation and calm him down and get him to start flying it as if it was a cessna. bring it as basically -- as basic as i could. >> and what was extraordinary about it is the fact that here this guy has his family, his daughters are in the back seat so he's not only worried about himself but his family. you were able to talk him through it. had you ever flown that kind of airplane before? >> i had flown a similar type, a complex turboprop but not that particular kingair, no. >> you helped him and he landed safely and we know you were honored a couple of days ago there in orlando. lisa grimm, job well done. thank you very much. >> thank you very much. thank you. >> all right, lisa. meanwhile, coming up straight ahead, we'll go live to