they hear him describe his program the more they love him and program. there isn't any evidence of that. i mean the truth is there are hard electoral realities they're bumping up against. in massachusetts voters there, one of the most liberal states in the country, single most liberal rejected this health care plan in the form of elected scott brown senator. so the bottom line question do they have 218 in the house? do they have 50 in senate for reconciliation plan of the as of today i don't think they do. i don't think that number is going to increase in the next four weeks. jon: what about that? the president we know has this so-called, plan-b, a much, sort of stripped-down version of health care, jeff, would he consider trying to get something like that passed and call it a victory? >> you know, i don't know what the internal strategy is. i think what's clear and president said it in his closing remarks at the end of the mayor dhon summit which is, if there is not going to be agreement, then they're going to go to procedural things. and, people can cry foul over procedural things like