and democracy. >> no supreme court, no system of government, no democracy where they vote. can you believe it, a group of people coming together and voting and the majority vote will then be the law of the land. what gives you the right to prohibit something around somebody? who gave you this right? are you creators, are you all knowledgable? >> reporter: some terrorism experts say that qati's message to ignore all laws butoos limoo but islam is some of extremists calling for holy war against the west. the affiliation with the underwear bomber we cont know and he has not returned phone calls. martha: what else do we know about qati? >> the same we're he instructed the accused bomber he was invited to d.c. by the national counterterrorism center for a symposium, though we are

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