take its instructions from beijing is that a tactic that is reminiscent of how the chinese government operatives look at how the chinese government operates in the mainland they have fire. your plans and so forth in hong kong they said you know you have your autonomy for 50 years but over the last 22 years we have seen china creeping in in the hong kong's autonomy whether it's the issue of the national security bill that they wanted to pass and 2003 which did not work out and then the idea of giving hong kong universal suffrage but china interprets thing what universal suffrage means and now with this extradition bill which allows people to be extradited to china doesn't work now does not mean it's not going to work in the future and we know china plays a long term game is this something that is is this a fact that is lost on the protesters do you think the protesters in hong kong perhaps have their hopes in the wrong place of the actually think of the protests can make a difference all there nor that have been not make a difference but it's important to posters i think it's