trained they're not used to this and i think only gradually the traditional people's party is to catch all parties waking up to the changed landscape and they struggle in all this is not something that comes to them easy because it sort of disrupts their traditional way of cutting deals in back rooms and controlling the process and everything and that's something that's irritating and has to be learned and max listening to what yosef is just saying there what are you hearing there in brussels from these traditional big center parties about how they might have to change the way that they've been doing politics. what we've been her you're hearing is mainly one topic which is they say they didn't understand early enough how important the topic of fighting climate change was especially to young voters we understood quite early here in brussels and i'm sure you did in berlin as well that this was something really special when we had young people descending into the streets week after week tens of thousands at some points movements like fridays for

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