actually brought foreign policy security policy and the need to arm for real threats to the public and if they know that the public doesn't want to doesn't want to hear directly that it would be the actual action i think the public actually is well they're willing to listen to that but the problem is not we talk about numbers we talk about one points we want one for one point five don't we to talk about defense and we don't really talk about strategy and i think one of the major problems germany has a dozen lots in defense i mean if you look at the defense budget ten years ago or twenty thirty. there were thirty three billion or forty three so things moved indeed and germany is doing a lot to nato but on the other hand then comes the domestic debate in the kind of party politics and then germany is sending mixed messages what you mention so the question is restrict or not stream not stray into the pipeline and then the same time to do a lot of deterrence and defense in the east so our partners say what you actually want you want to do that up on project with the russians or you want to defend us against the russians then we have to export problem on the one hand we want to
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