nine hundred seventy one classified documents which helped to exit the b. at nom wars and as well as watergate and the resignation of richard nixon i'm happy to welcome to the day daniel ellsberg is ellsberg it's an honor to have you on the day we appreciate you taking the time they talk with us i'd like to talk with you about about how we view nuclear weapons in deterrence in general in just a moment but first i'd like to ask you about this acute problem right now with this i.n.f. treaty should it should it be saved i mean is the treaty as important today as it was when it was signed i would say so yes in fact we have six months for the kind of movement among our allies i would say the u.s. and nato and movements all over the world actually against building new triggers to a doomsday machine both russia and the u.s.