going to be pushed up to second behind dortmund do you think history is going to repeat itself or do you think dorman dortmund are made of sterner stuff this time around completed different situation than last year to having this loser top manager a really good take titian i think that's the key men but also the way they did the trains this year bringing in so absolute top player also. i mean you don't have to talk about him he's goes left right and center and the young guns like police each but of course also son joe that's absurd. so the mix of discord is so strong at the moment there's a lot to come in the near future now ed you've just heard our man here let's mention of course seems to be a big fan of his do you think he's found the right method for the team to win because i mean they had that great result or in the week of course against you know they've been in the europe and let it go again so let it go madrid ok they stumbled