the fourth of july holiday for instance. and had to fifteenth of the fortunes of the two laws. to commemorate. and symbol law is the foundation of states but these you know days have a long tradition where is the third of october is. the really really free cation of a state that had existed before and secondly. it is a less long tradition than the fourth of july or the fourteenth of july and it's been twenty eight years we now present. the twenty eighth birthday of reification a lot has been said about the wall in people's minds and i'd like you to perhaps talk a little bit more about that with us i mean is it still there are east and west divided . i mean if you look at some indicators economic indicators and socially decay just for instance i mean you can see it's still see differences i mean the level of unemployment is still there or. it's visible but the difference have become