the church's credibility is on the line and also other issues other politicians, other catholic politicians have not agreed on like the death penalty ordering executions and wasn't talk about this. so unfortunately, many of the bishops and the bishops conference meeting mention president biden and speaker pelosi and makes it very difficult for people to michael vick away-- move away from t assumption some of this is politically motivated. >> do you think politics are at play here?this is politically m >> do you think politics are at play here? >> i think it's hard to particularly when we see the position of the lack of criticism from other high profile republican officer holders or appointees and, you know, i can understand on the one hand the logic of saying president biden is the president. he's a practicing catholic, we need to clarify these doctrines,