enslaved -- my ancestors were enslaved for roughly 250 years in this country and just like some people want to move on from what happened on january 6th, and act like it didn't happen, so, too, are the same people wanting to just move on as if slavery didn't happen. as if its legacy is still not with us. >> in terms of what it means about where we are hand what needs to happen, how much of the suggestion is about people who say, well, you can't call it independence day. it'll confuse people. the idea of juneteenth is divisive. where is that coming from and what do we do with it? >> i'm shocked that some folks, some republicans in particular don't know that my ancestors as you said at the top of the show did not declare independence on july 4th, 1776. that my ancestors if anything