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o'brien. also jim acosta and dana bash. tim, given with trump in a legal setting, he wants to sue you for $5 billion because he didn't like what you wrote, his net worth was much lower than what he thought it was, how serious do you think the grand jury is? >> i don't believe he is receiving it well. i don't think anybody would an ounce of common sense would be happy to be subject to criminal probe that's now part of the grand jury proceeding. so i think you're going to start to see him lash out. you can probably set your stopwatch to how soon he'll go after vance and after the process. he already has gone after tish james last week of course obviously. this has enormous weight. as goldman just pointed out, we really don't know where it's going to lead. there is a lot of evidentiary issues for the d.a. and the new york state attorney general to surmount here to make a case

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