them understand why we might need a single payer system or medicare for all. i think that's the correct substantive position. it takes a while to move people and to try to interject that in the middle of a campaign can be a little jarring for people. i actually think joe biden's numbers being so far ahead are inflated. i think a lot of that is name recognition and obama nostalgia. and so, you know, as we get closer to people actually voting, then we'll probably see that start to kind of shrink up a little bit. it's also based on the idea that he can beat trump, which is then the number one thing for democrats right now. we'll have to see how he does in the debate, frankly, because i don't think he was that impressive in the last debate. if he continues to perform that way, i think that will chip away of the idea, this is the guy to go up against donald trump. >> that's what's so interesting for people. he was not praised after the