answers you wanted from him? >> don, we absolutely did. we didn't expect fireworks, and i know there was a great build-up to this hearing. the reason why there was a long build-up, it took a long time to secure director mueller and we absolutely had to have him, but we had a methodical building block of a story. it wasn't a story with a lot of dancing and a lot of music. >> mmm-hmm. >> but as it relates to the judiciary committee volume ii, we hammered over and over again the issues dealing with obstruction of justice. i think one of the major points was the president and his supporters constantly indicate there was no collusion, there was no conspiracy. you don't have to have an underlying crime to have a crime of obstruction of justice. >> so you think robert mueller undid that narrative today? >> i think he undid it because he even answered the question that there does not need to be a crime for there to be obstruction of justice, and obstruction of justice can be a basis for indictment and conviction. >> okay. so let me ask you, the report