the house of representatives to bring back wages, to put wages into the pockets of people, that's what we're going to do tomorrow with a $15 minimum wage. we have shown the kind of legislation we can pass when we take back the senate, when we keep the house, when we take back the white house. >> but, pramila, the politics, the heart of it is persuasion and policy is there, but it's a second and third note. remember how my pop used to say, you can't paint in poetry. i'm not saying policy doesn't matter. on this show we talk about it all the time. but this is powerful stuff this president is playing with and he knows it is, that's why he's using it and he's getting unusual buy-in from people who should know better. listen to this congressman. listen to congressman kelly and the case he made in the president's defense. >> i'm watching all this.