them myself and their best guess, for the -- >> let him talk. >> they don't even have a testable yet. it won't be rolled out until this coming spring is what the company told me. you can call and check and ask with them, same thing i did. call and ask them. >> ron, race issues as we know, and tensions, have been front and center this week for the 2020 field. >> yeah. >> are voters paying attention to this? >> well, certainly, first of all, at the local level, i. been in cities over the last couple years from san francisco and milwaukee to houston and pittsburgh, and there is no issue in urban america that is more intractable and incendiary than the police use of force. it is a central issue in cities everywhere, in part, because of one thing you saw today. african-american communities in particular feel that they are not being heard in their unease and discontent about the way they are being policed. that kind of sense jason was talking about, trying to have this forum for years and we