that's part of, you know, a lot of people do this. i think i look at this from a religious standpoint as well. we can ask forgiveness all we want. in fact, the united states government has asked for forgiveness or at least apologized time and time again, but we have to also be willing to seek atonement, and sometimes seeking atonement means r reparating for the past. >> there have been politicians who have apologized but i don't think an official apology from the u.s. government has happened. van, do mcconnell's answers show a fundamental misunderstanding of what it means to have white privilege, as robert says? >> i think so. i would look at white privilege institutions. how it's affected this government and how the inverse, not having privilege, being a target of the government, has affected black people. we actually have material